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Mar. 29th, 2007 11:24 am
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I'm surprised at the lack of information on Wikipedia about the Joe Gage trilogy.

One thing I did find out is that they re-mastered the trilogy for DVD release. I'm going to have to track that down, or find H264 versions of that, rather than the VHS versions I have.

So what are your thoughts on the Joe Gage trilogy? Great trilogy, or greatest trilogy?

Date: 2007-03-29 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornyc.livejournal.com

Hopefully [livejournal.com profile] greasybiker will see this, he's fairly knowledgeable about the cut versions of Gage's films out there, and has some of the uncut stuff on dinosaur media.

Perhaps if more men were looking for titles on DVD rather than torrents, there'd be a market and thus an incentive for companies to clear rights and reissue such films.

Date: 2007-03-29 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theoctothorpe.livejournal.com
I donnow.. I'd pay for a good downloadable H264 version. I don't need physical media.

Part of the problem is copyright. The current system is so messed up that content is basically abandoned, but still not "free" (as in speech, not as in beer), preventing the general public from getting its use. This of course, is totally the opposite of the original intent of copyright law. It was *supposed* to create a *temporary* monopoly on distribution, where, after a short period, the copyright would fall into the public domain. Now, corporations are effectively immortal humans, able to hold copyright, and said copyright is extended ad infinitum.

Date: 2007-03-29 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornyc.livejournal.com

I'd pay for a good downloadable H264 version.

Sure you would. 'Cause it's the Greatest. Porn. Trilogy. Ever. But most people when they talk of torrents they want it free, and to freely share and swap it. How much of your 1TB was so acquired, as how much did you pay for? The physical media allows the producers at least some control over sales and distribution.

People who produce our erotica deserve to be well compensated for their work. In a just society they would be, for their considerable inspiration and assistance in getting our rocks off. But they're not. Although their work is highly coveted, it's devalued because of puritanical attitudes and guilt attached to the world of sex.

The market for niche (vintage/non-twink/bear/leather/kink/whatever) gay porn is small enough as it is. If we bought more and shared less (to say nothing of the attitude of expecting it to be free), there'd be more, and better, out there.

Joe Gage is still writing and directing porn at the age of 62. You should contact him care of Titan Media and encourage him to rerelease the full prints of his trilogy.

Date: 2007-03-29 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theoctothorpe.livejournal.com
Even before the internets, people swapped tapes. It's a copyright violation problem. The folks that want everything for free will always get it for free, and would never think of paying for it. Those people aren't customers.

The problem is the lack of availability. Much of this stuff is orphaned, accessible to *no one*, except through illegal means.

Apple proved that people are willing to buy music online if the user experience is better than the experience they have trying to get it for free. They also priced things reasonably (part of the user experience). $0.99 isn't so much dosh for a song, and $9.99 isn't so bad for an album, considering the physical CD will often cost twice that (and don't get me started on the price gouging for CDs). Also, the quality of the file is known. It's a *very* well recorded version in a specific bitrate. It's a good product. This simply doesn't exist in the porn world.

Ironically, this is the only time I can think of where porn wasn't on the forefront of technology. Where's the iPorn store? Give me 1 click access to my porn, and guaranty me a high-quality (DVD) video download preferably without DRM (or Fairplay-style DRM) for a reasonable price. Most tapes and discs go for $60 to $100, even ones several years old. The industry has simply priced themselves out of their own market.

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