Dead Cow

[octothorpe]

I was having an interesting IMversation (no, that's not a word) with notdefined, and the subject turned to leather bars. A lot has been said over the years about the golden age of leather bars and biker bars, and how today it's just not the same, blah, blah, blah. A few interesting points came out of this:

• A lot of people know what a leather bar/biker bar is "supposed to be", but they always fail to make what they've got, into their ideal. This isn't a problem with the owner, it's a problem with the patrons who think this. If you don't like it, *change* it. A bar owner only provides a venue, the rest is up to the people who go there. I've gone into straight bars and made them gay bars for the evening. Nothing is stopping anyone from making their bar into their ideal.


• We're a much more "out" and open population. We simply don't need to sneak around dark alleys looking for sex in dodgy places. Of course, some of us still want to.


• Bars-as-hookup-spots have been made totally irrelevant by the internet. Why bother going through the cruise dance, when your sex partner can be delivered to your door, not unlike "Fresh Direct"


• There is a lot of nostalgia (and I mean this in the correct sense of the term, not just "memory") out there for that "Golden Age" of dodgy leather/biker bar. This is an age that never *actually* happened the way people like to think it did. Today, people either weren't alive when it was all happening, or they're just remembering their fondest bits. Many of the memories people have, are actually second-hand stories of "how it used to be", mostly because those who were around "back in the day", are sadly, no longer with us.

Discuss!!

Comments

[brunorepublic.livejournal.com]

But this sort of thing doesn't make the present better, it makes it worse. How can the present be pleasant when everyone is convinced that everything used to be so much better before, and us poor saps will never experience the really good things in life... back in the long ago, when all the people were beautiful, everyone was nice to one another, every song was an anthem, and the men spent every waking minute in carefree bliss, gleefully sodomizing each other on clouds of cotton candy...

I don't know about you, but for me to make the most of the present, I don't want to be told that everything used to be so much better, and oh, how kids today just have no clue.

"I don't want to live in the past... although I wouldn't mind visiting it, just to do a bit of shopping."
- Me

gleefully sodomizing each other on clouds of cotton candy

[dac.livejournal.com]

LOL I think you're onto something with this living in the present jazz.

Also, romanticizing the past prevents us from learning from the struggles.

"We must learn backward, but we must live forward."
--Kierkegaard